DARTS – Dayton Area Thermal Soarers

Dayton Area Thermal Soarers
Dayton Area Thermal Soarers

 

Location: Darts is located in Twin Towers Area Park in Yellow Springs Ohio.

Website: http://www.daytonsoaring.org/

Contact Email: Email Links Here

Access to the field: Open Park

GPS Geeks: +39° 49′ 10.44″, -83° 56′ 47.87″( 39.819567, -83.946630 Station is accessible‎)

Address: Twin Towers Area Park, 501 Yellow Springs Fairfield Rd, Fairborn, OH 45387


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AMA Club Charter: #889 Formed: Nov 1972

Club Dues: $25 Average Membership: ??? Memebership Limit?: No

Flying Hours: I have no data on flying hours for this location.

Membership Information: The club is open to all AMA Members.  See Club Website for official information.

Guest Flying: I’ve flown with these guys as a guest and I know the many soaring contests they hold include people from all over the region.  This is certainly an open and friendly group.

Google Map with notes from a member.  Also lists other soaring sites in the area.


What you’ll find:
This is THE club in the region for Soaring, both fun and competition.  This has always been an active group.  Be sure to check the club schedule for a variety of activities.  The flying area is all grass.  A Park shelterhouse is nearby providing picnic tables and headquarters for contests.  There are some active soccer fields to the north and there is no flying from these fields or over players. 

Special Notes From Dave: It’s always “Gentlemanly” to observe the AMA Safety Code as a baseline at any new field until all local rules, etiquette and customs are learned. Be aware some fields have routine full scale air traffic nearby, others very little or none. It takes time to become aware of all the special concerns and routines at any new flying field.

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RAMS Club

RAMS Logo
RAMS Club Logo

Location: RAMS is located behind the US Airforce Museum on the Grounds of Wright Patterson Airforce Base in Area B.  

 Website: http://www.fly-rams.com/

Contact Email: Check Website

Access to the field: Combination lock

GPS Geeks:  +39° 46′ 22.34″, -84° 5′ 49.64″  ( 9.772873, -84.097123Station is accessible‎)

Address: See club provided map below and on website.

AMA Club Charter: #2434  Formed: 1969   History: RAMS History

Club Dues: $5    Average Membership:  60     Memebership Limit?:  No

Flying Hours: Because this flying field is inside controlled airspace (Wright Field) , flying is generally limited to after 5:PM to sunset weekdays and generally 12:nooon to sunset on weekends.  There are some other restrictions and special dates the field is closed, be sure to check the Park Rules on the RAMS website for the official information.

Membership Information:  The club is open to all AMA Members who are Military, Retired Military or base contractors.  Civil servents and retired civil servents also qualify.  Essentially anybody who has or can qualify for a base pass.

Guest Flying:  Club Secretary (2012) Keith Numbers informed me pilots in with a base pass who are here for a short stay (AFIT students for example) are welcome at the  facility as a guest.  He said to please contact the club for information and proper procedures & etc…  Notes from Dave (writer of Radical RC Workbench Blog): Of course, all clubs appreciate being appreciated with funding, so if your going to be around a while, join up and do your part.

RAMS Flying Area Map
RAMS Flying Area Map

What you’ll find:  The RAMS have a paved runway.   There are no shelters, power or picnic tables, so be sure to bring any needed chairs, power or shade with you.  The flying area is nice and open without obsticals.  It is the choice place to test out extra large or fast models such as turbins.  If you’ve ever been to the DOGS airshow, the RAMS field is at the far right end of the DOGS flying area on the crossing taxiway.  

Special Notes From Dave:  It’s always “Gentlemanly” to observe the AMA Safety Code as a baseline at any new field until all local rules, etiquette and customs are learned.  Be aware some fields have routine full scale air traffic nearby, others very little or none.  It takes time to become aware of all the special concerns and routines at any new flying field.

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Choosing A Swap Meet Location

Room Full Of Swappers!

This can sometimes be the most challenging part of the whole project. First, you need a budget. Try to get your group to approve about $1000 so you have wider options. There is nothing wrong with coming in way under budget. However, If you spend less than you should have, your whole event could go down as a disaster.

Look to your membership first:
Does somebody in the group belong to a civic group with a meeting hall? I’ve been to swap meets in Churches, VFW Halls, Union Halls, Corporate Cafeteria’s, High School Gym’s, Grade School Gym’s, Vocational School Cafeteria, Convention Centers, Sports Arena’s, Civic Center Halls, Grange Halls, and even a Plumbers Garage. Yes, it is a big garage. The point is to think out of the box.  Your membership probably has at least a few connections to facilities such as these.  Rarely they will be free, but often becasue your member is part of that association there will be substantial discount, often 50%. Look into each one of the opportunities with an open mind.

Government Officials
It’s never a waste of time to visit your local city officials for some assistance.  They are often favorable to support events that bring visitors and revenue to the community. You can never predict what might be offered or suggested. During the years we held our event at the Convention Center, which is managed by the City of Dayton. They were exceedingly helpful in making sure we could both afford the venue and had what we needed. It’s a feather in their cap to have another event in town. And, being a civic group working in a city park didn’t hurt at all.

What makes a good room for our new swap meet?
What your looking for is a heated/conditioned space that is reasonably clean and big enough 80 tables or so.  (You need about 7200 square feet or more to do this.) It’s very important to have a room with 2 entrances. You want a front entrance for the public and a back or side entrance for your vendors to load in. I’ll cover these subjects in later articals. Just realize you need to control the “Sneaker In-ers” to protect your event profit and the first step in this security is seperating the vendor entrance from the public entrance. Things to watch out for is a vendor loading entrance with bad auto traffic flow like back in a corner of the lot will be a problem. Also, it needs to be an entrance a dolly can go through, no steps.

Why 80 Tables?
Just from experience, I’ve learned the meets with less than 80 tables seem to wallow around in the 40-60 zone.  They never are very busy or crowded.  The ones around 80 tables or larger just seem to be stonger.  In times of economic failure like these, people who like to go to swaps perhaps decide with higher fuel costs they are going to cut out the smaller ones and just do the bigger ones.  You want to be one of the bigger ones. It’s OK to start smaller, but don’t get stuck, make sure your adding in 10-20 tables a year, and make sure you advertise how many tables your event it. It makes a difference.

How do you get tables and chairs?
Very good question! Although I’ve been to meets where the club rented tables from local party rental companies, this is expensive and often means you’ll be managing a pickup truck brigade to get them to your site. It’s alot of work and money. Expect table rental from sources like this to be $5 to $8 a unit, chairs about $3 a unit.  It’s best to look for a hall that has tables already for a modest rental fee or perhaps included. We’ve negotiated that as part of our rent for our event. Our crew sets up the tables and at the end we fold them up and put them back on the carts to be stored. You’ll need 4-10 more tables than swap meet tables you plan to rent. If the room is a bit short, it’s no big deal to get members to bring some folding tables for a few things like vendor check it and other places you’ll need them for your staff.

IUE Hall Woodman Drive Dayton

The Midwest Model Rama’s first location:
The first Model RAMA shows were in a local UAW Union hall. A club member had access to the hall at a discount rate. As I remember, it cost the club $400 to rent the hall. The hall was just big enough for what I considered the minimum size successful meet. And, that was 80 tables. The hall size is 120′ x 60′ or about 7200 square feet. We sold the hall out completely the first 2 years and moved on to something even bigger.

 

Ball Arena Room at Hara Arena

We went from there to a large room in Hara Arena. We’ve had our event at Hara several times and even the Downtown Dayton Convention Center a few times. Currently it’s held at the Montgomery Country Fairgrounds. We’ve spent anywhere from $400 to $2400 on room and tables each year. We’ve always made a profit. However, at the high point of rental, we didn’t make much for our group and that had to change. Our current location is about $1300 and lets the county rent a room in the winter when there are no customers and lets us make a decent profit. All our procedes are spent improving our model airport “Wingmaster Field” in Dayton Ohio. Home of the Dayton Wingmasters Model Airplane Club. The field is in a public park and is open to the public. What a great deal a local model airplane club can be for a city. It’s probably the only public park in the area maitained by a civic group. What a DEAL for the taxpayers! And, we are happy to do it, it’s one of the country’s most beautiful flying sites.

Get It In Writing

A Hard Date:
Make certain your deal with your venue is a hard date. Meaning, it’s your date. We once almost rented an indoor college practice field. But then they told me if a coach needed the room they might have to move our date. I asked how much notice and they said, “Oh a week or so”. I said, no thanks! You need 6-12 months to plan one of these things. You can’t have somebody flipping over the applecart on you. A real rental hall with give you contract that barring Tornado or Fire, it’s your room on the agreed date.

Other Ideas:
Over the years at various venue’s we’ve had indoor flying after the meet.  If your ceiling is tall enough inside it’s always a great hit to allow some flying.  Most of the time, your rental is for all day.  You’ll find swap meets run strong in the morning but by noon or 1pm they are fizzled out.  Only the very largest meets can hold a croud as late as 2 or 3 pm.   So, if the building permits, soon as everything fizzles out, tear down the tables and start flying.  If your going to do this, be sure to put it in your AMA ad and on your flyers.  This will attract even more people than would come out for “just a swap meet” and adds an extra level of fun in the day. A location with flying potential is worth more to you.

ScroogeThe Tight Wad Failure
I’ve seen events that never really grew to meet with the clubs dreams because they got intoxicated with the cheapness of a free or low cost hall to hold the event. Once on the needle of cheapness they just can’t find a way off. Don’t make this mistake. It’s ok to start out this way. However, if your venue is full, you need to move on, look onward and upward to achieve your potential.

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National Museum of the US Airforce

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Dolittle Raiders

Museum Hours
Open daily 9 a.m.-5 p.m.
Closed Thanksgiving, Christmas Day and New Year’s Day
FREE admission!

Museum Location
1100 Spaatz Street
Wright-Patterson AFB OH 45433
(937) 255-3286

Website: National Museum of the US Air Force
USAFM Event Calendar: Events
Photo: Photo Collection

If your on your way to Dayton, odds are your visiting the Airforce Museum. I can’t tell you more than the official website, however I can offer that that you will need more than a day to enjoy the museum properly. Plan on 1.5 to 2 days to really take it all in and not be rushed. The IMAX movies are lots of fun and very reasonable in cost. It’s a great way to rest your feet in the middle of the day.

Look to plan your trip during special activities or perhaps when a significant modeling activity is underway in the Miami Valley. The museum holds many special events each year. You can meet great hero’s like living Doolittle Raiders and others. There are often special tours behind the scenes or in resoration facilities. Wings & Things Guest Lectures are given on aviation history and technology.

Tung-Sheng Liu (third from right in white jacket) stands with the crew of Lt. Travis Hoover. He helped these men escape capture following the Doolittle Raid. He later immigrated to the United States and was one of four individuals names as honorary Doolittle Raiders. (U.S. Air Force photo

Spend some time on the site to see what’s going on and be sure to check out my list of significant modeling events in the area. Plan time to visit some local hobby shops. You never know what you might find hanging from the ceiling or perhaps you’ll see a project underway that will light fire under your enthusiasm.

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The Man Aviation History Almost Forgot

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by Bob Taylor

Three men were involved in the invention and development of the first powered airplane-that’s right three. Everyone knows about the Wright brothers, but that third man was Charles E. “Charlie” Taylor, a quiet genius who loved cigars and the sound of machinery. Although he contributed to one of man’s greatest achievements, “Powered Flight,” his name was almost lost in aviation history–until now–and if it hadn’t been for Charlie that first powered airplane would never have gotten off the ground……

A worthwhile read, the history behind history.  I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.  To read the full story on AvStop Magazine: The Man Aviation History Almost Forgot

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Health of Trade Shows & Skunk Wurks Project For Toledo!!!

Radical RC @ Toledo Expo
Radical RC @ Toledo Expo

I have a strong conviction; if we want strong trade shows, vendors need to make sure they show people something new at the show. In todays world of instant internet communication, the moment some new product becomes available, it’s announced and the word is spread instantly. Back in the day, there was an extra level of excitment when attending Toledo or any other big trade show. It was you chance to see the newest stuff, your chance to get out a couple months ahead of the magazines. Your chance to know what was going on in our hobby. If you didn’t go, you were left behind, perhaps to be stuck behind the news and technology curve for the entire season.

For a number of years, we’ve worked hard to do our part to show people something new at The Toledo Show. It’s every vendors responsibility to contribute to a healthy trade show future for all of us. Our hobby needs healty magazines, healthy suppliers, healthy hobby shops and certainly healthy trade shows.

If your a vendor at a trade show, I encourage you do the same. Are you really so desparate and hungry you can’t hold back on exiting item a few weeks to do your part to add excitment to your favorite show? Think about it.

A recent meeting with national parks officials sparked my enthusiasm to work on a highly requested project. Sorry, can’t tell you what the meeting was about…….. However, you will see it in the booth at Toledo and you’ll want one. I’m very excited to test it out myself. It is perhaps the coolest thing to come out of our shop.

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RC Hobby Center

RC Hobby Center Building
Address: 2130 Harshman Rd., Dayton, Ohio 45424
GPS Geeks: Latitude+39° 48′ 6.62″, Longitude-84° 7′ 48.55″, (39.801839, -84.130152) ‎
Phone: (937) 436-6161
Website: www.rchobbycenter.com
Email: RC Hobby Center Email (info@rchobbycenter.com)

ModelRama Vendor?: YES

Location:
Located 1.9 miles and 5 minutes west of the US Airforce Museum, just west of State Route 4. Across from Morris Furniture Mart.

What you’ll find:
Aircraft, radios, building supplies, smart slot car track, rc cars/trucks and parts. Service department. Home of Ganster Graphics. This shop puts on indoor flying evenings at the Irvin J Nutter Center throughout the winter months. Sign up for shop newsletter to be informed of dates.

Visual of Location:

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Map & driving directions from US Airforce Museum to RC Hobby Center.

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Street View (image outdated) location of new RC Hobby Center building:

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The Hobby Shop

Race at The Hobby Shop
Address: 153 N. Springboro Pike, Dayton, OH 45449
GPS Geeks: Latitude+39° 47′ 10.62″, Longitude-84° 6′ 51.61″ (39.786282, -84.114335) ‎
Phone: (937) 436-6161
Website: www.thehobbyshoponline.com
Email: The Hobby Shop Email (randythehobbyshop@yahoo.com)
Email Service: The Hobby Shop Service (teeg111@aol.com)

ModelRama Vendor?: YES

Location:
Located in the “Corners At The Mall” Shopping center just north west of the Dayton Mall. South side of Dayton. Location is 15.9 miles, 23 minutes from the US Airforce Museum.

What you’ll find:
This shop have a full line of RC car and truck parts along with an indoor slot and HO tracks. Shop also has a model airplane department and outdoor racing tracks. Website categories are Cars, Stadium Trucks, Monster Trucks, Airplanes, Helicopters, Trains, Boats, Slot Cars, Rockets, Models, General Merchandise & Tools. The Hobby Shop puts on a number of indoor flying sessions throughout the winter months. Contact them for more information.

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Map & driving directions from US Airforce Museum to The Hobby Shop.

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Radical RC

Radical RC is located at:  5339 Huberville Ave, Dayton Ohio  45431-1250.  937-256-7727

GPS Geeks: Latitude N+39° 47′ 10.62″, Longitude W-84° 6′ 51.61″

Website: Radical RC (http://www.radicalrc.com)

Hours: Mon-Tue-Wed 9-5pm,  Thur & Fri 9-7pm, Saturday 10-2pm,  Closed Sunday
Booth at ModelRama?: YES

Our shop is directly across from the Airfroce Museum.  Almost driectly across from the flag pole.  When you exit Woodman Dr (also called Wright Brothers Parkway) onto Springfield Street, the Air Force Museum grounds are on your right.  On your left on a parallel road (Huberville Ave) there is a small neigborhood.  There are several commercial buildings on this road.  Radical RC is one of these buildings.  It is a single story 3 unit 3600 square foot block building.  There is usually a large white trailer parked in front of or beside the building.  There is no sign visible from the street.   Just find 5339 Huberville and your there.

What you’ll find:  One of the country’s most unique suppliers.  You won’t see much of anything from the big two (Horizon or Hobbico).  You’ll find all the supplies you need to really build a model airplane and of course all the model electronics we are world famous for.  This is a “Flying Machines” shop.

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Visiting Dayton? Airplane Activities

Be sure to check out the sub-categories open under “Visiting Dayton Aviation”.  You’ll find information about the Airforce Museum, local hobby shops, model airports, important local events and aviation attractions you can visit both nearby and a short drive outside the area.   Regardless if your in town for a visit or on business, if you’ve got some extra time to look around Dayton, there is plenty to do.  

This area of Ohio has some of the country’s best flying fields and several clubs over 100 members.  Aviation both full scale and model is strong here.  If you “Speak Model Airplane”, you’ll agree, Dayton is heaven.

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